Friday, December 18, 2009

More confusion over DCC plans for Victoria Park

This week's press has highlighted a number of worrying concerns raised by local councillors, as well as further confusing statements from the city council. To set the scene, the School Premises (General Standards and Requirements) (Scotland) Regulations 1967, and amended, state:
8(1) Every primary school shall have available and in close proximity to it playing fields not less than the area specified in Table IV according to the number of pupils for which the school is designed except where the provisions of regulation 8(4) apply.
Depending on the extent to which playing fields are shared between the two schools, Table IV indicates that the West End Schools proposal requires between 4000-6000 square metres (1-1.5 acres) dedicated for playing fields.

We have learned from Freedom of Information requests that the Director of Education wrote to Schools Division of Scottish Government in April and May 2009 as follows:
"With regard to the matter of playing fields, we are committed to providing facilities at this site for outdoor education."
"It will not have a playing field, although there will be one in close proximity."
Also, the Convener of Education stated on STV in May 2009:
"..there is no absolute need for them, for us to provide them with a playing field as part of the facilities of the school"
The Scottish Government decision notice, available from their website, grants dispensation to DCC for the size of site being less than that required by regulation 7, and states:
5.6 The provision of a hall, gymnasium and outdoor play area, along with the proposal for both schools to be able to use the nearby Victoria Park for outdoor activities and games, offer good potential for each school to ensure that all children receive the appropriate allocation of time for good quality physical education. As yet the council has not formally dedicated any space in the park for use by the schools, nor indicated what, if any, games pitches might be laid out for their sole or shared use. The draft plans for the proposed shared campus include the possibility of a small shared all-weather area which could be used for games and other outdoor activities. It is not clear at the moment whether or not this pitch will actually be built if the proposal goes ahead.
6.2 HMIE recommends that the council be asked to clarify its proposals for use of Victoria Park by giving a commitment to how it would dedicate part of the park for use of the two primary schools and a firmer indication of what pitches or sports areas might be laid out for their use at various times of the year.
Note the need for "appropriate allocation of time for good quality physical education" rather than occasional use of a public park, which any school at any time is fully entitled to do, in addition to its playing fields. Also, the city council is asked to give "a commitment to how it would dedicate part of the park" (emphasis added).

Now, read on and let us know if you can make sense of the council's plans ...

1. Plans for £10m shared campus get green light (The Courier, 11 Dec 2009)
The council said it will be "addressing" the Victoria Park issue - a draft proposal includes the possibility of a small, shared all-weather but no space has been dedicated in the park for schools use.
2. £10m schools plan to be discussed (Evening Telegraph, 11 Dec 2009)
The joint campus is expected to be three storeys high and include playing fields at Victoria Park for use by both schools.
3. Row over plans to use Victoria Park (The Courier, 12 Dec 2009)
... elected members, parents and teachers were not consulted about plans to use Victoria Park as playing fields for schools use. It was also claimed last night that PE sessions in the park could "change the nature" of a popular west end green space.
... Ministers were told that Victoria Park could be used for playing fields, perhaps with an all-weather surface installed, but Councillor Bidwell said a "detailed proposal" was not previously shared.
... a claim which Councillor Fordyce denied last night. "I can't say off the top of my head when it was first raised," she said. "It wasn't just tagged on at the end - it was raised."
4. City official not consulted on plan for Victoria Park (The Courier, 14 Dec 2009)
Director of leisure and communities Stewart Murdoch was not aware that education bosses had told ministers the park could be used for playing fields, perhaps with an all-weather surface installed.
... The plan, in particular the Victoria Park proposal, has caused much controversy locally and last night Mr McCready said it must be examined "in great detail" before being rubber-stamped.
... "Victoria Park is popular with local people in the west end and is well used," Mr McCready added. "Using it exclusively for educational purposes may impact on local people's use of the park and I want to be sure that their views are taken on board as well as the views of the education stakeholders."
5. School's park plan will not mean fence (The Courier, 15 Dec 2009)
Dundee City Council has stepped in to try to reassure west end residents that parts of Victoria Park are not to be fenced off for the exclusive use of pupils. The park has become central to the row over future primary school provision in the area.
... Attempting to answer the criticism, the council pointed to other schools in the city that use public parks and said there would also be outside space available on the shared campus itself.
"There will be playground areas, including a grassed area, located within the proposed shared campus," a council spokesman said.
"There is also the possibility of including an all-weather area in the draft plans for the former Harris Academy annexe site.
... the spokesman added, "The use of Victoria Park for sporting activity will form part of our plans but it is not our intention to erect any fencing around a dedicated area or to construct an all-weather surface at the park."
6. Worries over Victoria Park (Evening Telegraph, 15 Dec 2009)
Doubts have been expressed about the use of Victoria Park for playing fields, and west end councillor Fraser Macpherson revealed today many west end residents had contacted him with concerns.
One Blackness Road resident had written, "I find it unbelievable that a decision such as this appears to have been made with no public consultation. The park has been in use as open public space for over 100 years and a change of use of even part of it would be seriously detrimental to its use and to the west end as a whole. I would like to know why this is the only option being looked at, and what other options are available."
7. Concern at St Joseph's proposal (Letters, Evening Telegraph, 15 Dec 2009)
I feel the new school, with its wifi, and hopefully no leaks, is a double blow to the many St Joseph’s pupils who live in the west end tenements, as not only will they be robbed of the vital opportunity to explore the outdoors while at school, those whose parents take them to play at Victoria Park will have their space to play constrained as sections will be cordoned off for the new school’s facilities.
8. Council pressed on park proposal (The Courier, 16 Dec 2009)
The city council has pointed out that other city schools use public parks, and also said there would be outside space on the shared campus itself.
... (Councillor) McCready pointed out that the school inspectors' report issued last week talked about there being a "dedicated" part of the park for the schools to use.
9. Victoria Park talk "most unhelpful" (Evening Telegraph, 16 Dec 2009)
West End SNP Councillor Jim Barrie spoke out over "rumours" associated with the proposal after talks with the director and convener of education.
... Councillor Barrie said, "It is important the public are aware and assured there will be no area 'cordoned off' for dedicated school use and full access for members of the public will continue."
... Mr Barrie said, "... I remember as a five-year-old pupil the excitement of the rare visits to Victoria Park for summer sports day, and being introduced to the many varieties of trees in Balgay Park. That is what Balgay Park is there for, and the occasional use of its facilities should be encouraged. I am sure the regular users of the park would love to see more children playing, not only in Victoria Park, but exploring the trails up Balgay Hill and visiting the Observatory."
10. Don't despoil Victoria Park (Letters, The Courier, 18 Dec 2009)
The Friends of Balgay heard a brief hint of this plan a few weeks ago and immediately protested.
Victoria Park is very well used by families and young people who gather together there, picnic when the weather is fine and enjoy the friendly atmosphere.
If football is played there, the ground will be churned up and lying on the grass will no longer be comfortable or even possible.
... To get to Victoria Park from the planned school site, children would have to walk quite a distance up Blackness Road, negotiate what is quite a dangerous crossroads and make their way round the flower beds. It would seem that a simpler solution would be to bus the children to Lochee Park and allow them to use the facilities available there.
11. Pledge to consult Victoria Park users (Evening Telegraph, 18 Dec 2009)
In an email to Cllr MacPherson, Mr Collins pointed out that new regulations now give easier opportunity for anyone who wishes to make comment on a planning issue and emphasised no major takeover of any of the park space is envisaged.
He added there are “no proposals to erect fences and the statement I have read in the Press about a possible all-weather facility is quite simply wrong — no such facility is proposed.
12. Victoria Park concerns - feedback from the Director of Education (Councillor Fraser Macpherson's blog, www.dundeewestend.com, 18 Dec 2009)
... the City Council's Director of Education has responded to me about the department's proposals for use of Victoria Park by the schools on the proposed shared campus on the former Logie Secondary School site as follows :
"I want to emphasise that no major take over of any of the park space is envisaged. Primary schools in Dundee who do not have dedicated playing fields occasionally make use of park space for events such as sports days and football matches, but their use tends to be rare. I do not envisage the new West End campus requiring anything more frequent in Victoria Park."
If you can decipher the council's plans and align these with the Scottish Government and HMIe decision notice, please leave a comment and help us understand.


11 comments:

  1. If this is the mess the Dundee Council are making of one school, God help the rest of Dundee.

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  2. Is it gross incompetence, or gross deceit, or a mixture of the two? Just how much phantom consultation and phantom engagement of the local community has to happen before local people say enough is enough and demand council resignations as the price for this extended contempt for the local community?

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  3. We have had many years of Labout not listening and now we have the SNP not listening.

    William Wallace would be turning in his grave if he thought that Scottish Nationalism was going to end up becoming just another clique that ignored the concerns of ordinary Scottish people.

    The SNP can still redeem the situation but not without bringing some credible representatives into place for the West End and for Education in Dundee.

    Fordyce and Barrie have blown their chance!!

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  4. Unlike other public parks in Dundee, Victoria Park is completely unsitable for the purposes stated. The Government have taken the Council's assurances on face value without checking whether this is a viable option. Shame on them all for their contempt for west end residents, school children and indeed the law of the land. it would be wonderful if some philanthropist would challenge themin the courts because the man in the street cant afford to.

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  5. Why did the Diocese of Dunkeld avoid contact with parishioners and parents before supporting the move? Maybe they've just given up on us.

    How long before the St Joseph's church is also flogged off to the Al-Maktoum Institute and could you believe any promise from the Diocese on the matter anyway? The clock is ticking...

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  6. What is more astonishing is that the teachers who are meant to be the guardians and protectors of our children accept all this loss of space and did nothing to fight for that basic right. How sad. If they can sell up on the children now like this in a democratic country - what hope do we have. Teachers need more courage for rightousness and less time for following council jargons. I am sure that there are some upright teachers but the system is such that they are silenced. A free country. IT IS NOT.

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  7. Using Victoria Park is just a ploy to avoid asking the Government for yet another dispensation but we all know in our hearts that there is no intention to provide any meaningful playing field for the West End children.

    I say the new West End school should have NO ONSITE PARKING to ensure that the already meagre space for the 450 children is dedicated for them to play in, explore and exercise.
    The teachers will not like this but it would be great news for the children - that is assuming that anyone actually does care about the children?

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  8. The plans for the new West End Primary school show there will be much less playground space than St Josephs and Park Place currently have.

    So this wonderful opportunity for the West End of Dundee is a now shown to be a site that is contaminated, sloping, next to an electricity sub-station, officially below the minimum size, overlooked by tenements (shame for the residents and children) while the school building will be multi storey, with more car parking but less playing space than the previous schools, no car parking for parents dropping off, no playing fields, nowhere for the kids to play proper football or any other outdoor sport and the majority of parents do not support the new school.

    This is the exciting and wonderful opportunity designed by the SNP Convener of Education, the Catholic Church and the Director of Education and it is a complete shambles for £10.3million pounds of our money.

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  9. If this is the case then we all have left the children in dire straits. It is so unfair to do this to the youngsters of Dundee who do not have a voice or a means to protect themselves.

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  10. (With all sarcasm) Hey - but the teachers get a new school!- Hurrah! And the SNP can continue to harp that they have met their quota of bulding new schools (Although Labor started these in the first place). SNP can now say that they closed the deal for their new school during their term ! Hurrah SNP! It is worrisome when children are used for political gain.

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